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Re: Black History
« Reply #1582 on: August 05, 2012, 03:56 PM »
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“En route my feelings were peculiar,” Gibbs wrote later in his memoir, recalling the moment. “A decade had passed, fraught with momentous results in the history of the nation. I had left California disfranchised and my oath denied… I was returning, and on touch of my country’s soil to have a new baptism through the all-pervading genius of universal liberty. I had left politically ignoble; I was returning panoplied with the nobility of an American citizen.”


What do you suppose this is all about?
It's a quote from freeman Mifflin Wistar Gibbs in 1870 who had previously fled to Victoria, British Columbia, had been elected and served to city coucil in 1866, was content and properous, which was not the norm for black people of that era.
In 1870 the civil war was over, recontrcution was under way and it seemed America was on a new path in opportunities for its black citizens.

Which brings us to a little discussed subject that spurred Mifflin Gibbs and others to act.
Act on what you ask? Remember the underground railroad and how many slves escaped during thise times? Well at some time those Africans who escaped to canada returned to america to find family, seek their fortune or just to take their rightful place in a country that onced enslaved them.

University of Texas at El Paso historian Adam Arenson explores this little-known aspect of nineteenth- century African American history. For you trivia buffs this information is loaded with little known facts you can stump the best on.
Overall this is a most enlightening piece that follows the lives of escaped Africans back to this country.

http://www.blackpast.org/?q=perspectives/after-underground-railroad-finding-african-north-americans-who-returned-canada

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Re: Black History
« Reply #1583 on: August 10, 2012, 09:01 PM »
IN OUR OWN WORDS:

True life stories from those that survived the Virgina white supremeist massive resistance to Brown V Board of Education 1954. Prince Edward County and several counties refused to follow the superme Court ruling to desegregate, thereby taking the lead in the southern stradegy of violence against blacks right through the 1960.

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Re: Black History
« Reply #1584 on: August 18, 2012, 02:16 PM »
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John Brown as "a narrow-minded and possibly insane religious fanatic." This dismissal of Brown as a lunatic or, at best, a religious fanatic, is common among contemporary historians. It is ironic that the Civil War, which cost 600,000 lives, is today considered a "reasonable" or at least "understandable" event in our history, but John Brown's raid is disregarded as the bloody act of a "madman."

In 1859, the raid at Harpers Ferry was taken much more seriously, both by abolitionists and by the defenders of slavery. Several prominent abolitionists aided Brown with money and weapons in his preparations for Harpers Ferry and in his earlier fight in "bleeding Kansas." Frederick Douglass and Harriet Tubman were asked to join the raiders, and Harriet Tubman agreed to participate but was ill at the time of the raid. And, although the immediate reaction to the raid was shock on the part of the less militant abolitionists, many openly applauded the action and honored the raiders before the year was out. The raid at Harpers Ferry was influential in persuading Northern abolitionists that moral suasion would not be sufficient to end the slave system and that more direct action was necessary.

The South took Brown seriously, also. Under interrogation in jail he answered questions with dignity and forthrightness, and several of his captors expressed their respect for the lean, bearded old man. The conduct of John Brown during his incarceration and trial was so strong and unwavering that slavery went on trial rather than slavery's captive. The South was deeply agitated by the raid, especially by Brown's plan to draw slaves from Virginia into the mountains to build a guerrilla force that would eventually liberate all slaves. The slave system trembled in fear of slave uprisings, especially after the Nat Turner rebellion in 1831.

In order to understand the raid as a serious and important attempt to end slavery in North America, there are several questions which need to be answered about the event and about its organizer: What were the motives and the intent of John Brown's raid at Harpers Ferry? What concrete abolitionist support did Brown get for the raid? What were the affects of the raid on the North and the South? If we discover clear evidence that Brown was a rational and respected man who attempted a dangerous but feasible action and made a significant contribution to ending slavery, then we must ask one final question: Why do present-day historians so frequently dismiss John Brown as a fanatic?


All those questions and many more are answered here. I must say this is the most detailed discussion I've ever read about John Brown's raid.

http://www.wvculture.org/history/journal_wvh/wvh34-1.html

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Re: Black History
« Reply #1585 on: August 18, 2012, 03:51 PM »
Short answer? Because if John Brown is treated as a rational and sane figure, then against the backdrop of continued oppression armed struggle cannot be refuted as a viable alternative.

That is why he and Nat Turner and others are treated as semi-lunatics and or bloodthirsty sociopaths. That is why you hear all about Tubman's willingness to kill negroes who would compromise the underground railroad, but not much about her militancy against whites. Ditto the same (in his respective spheres of influence) for Douglass. That is why King is venerated (though he may have been compromised by the US government early on in his movement) while Malcolm is vilified and slandered- even though there is no question Malcolm's influence on the world was and is much greater.

Have you heard about this as well, A-Friend?

http://www.theroot.com/views/untold-story-unknown-hero

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Re: Black History
« Reply #1586 on: August 18, 2012, 05:03 PM »
Thanks for the link noirjente, and no I hadn't heard of that uprising. I'm going to do some more research on it for my own edification.

That short answer was right on the mark. It lends itself quite succinctly with what's going on right now with voters suppression and the mind boggling ability of a segment of society to control others to their own detriment.


Its been awhile noirjente, come on in anytime.

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Here's a detailed writing on the Louisiana uprising. Very interesting.

http://etd.lsu.edu/docs/available/etd-07112008-110053/unrestricted/buman_thesis.pdf

Audio link:
http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=132839717&m=132983774

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Re: Black History
« Reply #1587 on: August 19, 2012, 04:10 PM »
Some might find it ironic that perhaps the largest slave revolt in American history is kept in obscurity by most historians, but I do not.
 
I mean how would it do to talk about a slave uprising in America inspired by the successful revolt in Haiti which was in turn inspired by the French Revolution, the same one we here in the US love to romanticize in book and film?

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Re: Black History
« Reply #1588 on: August 21, 2012, 12:23 AM »
noirjente, we had a discussion back in post #1458 about the Haiti revolution. On my set up that's page #105. I think you'll enjoy it.

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Re: Black History
« Reply #1589 on: August 21, 2012, 04:07 PM »
CORRECTION FROM POST #1468

For those that go back to read that post, you'll see this in quotes:
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Carlota fulfilled a noble task by offering great teachings even with her own lie. Neither studying nor talking about the contribution made in that Caribbean society by the African women, in particular, implies a silent falsification of the truth.

I just noticed I misspelled the last word in the first sentence.

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Carlota fulfilled a noble task by offering great teachings even with her own life. Neither studying nor talking about the contribution made in that Caribbean society by the African women, in particular, implies a silent falsification of the truth.

My sincere and most humble apologies for making such a dreadful mistake.


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Re: Black History
« Reply #1590 on: August 28, 2012, 05:10 PM »
Just when you think these right-wing dolts can't get any dumber or racist, what do you think will happen. Yup, they get dumber and more racist.

Think I'm making a wayyyyyyy out statement or making something up? Read it foryourself:
http://grist.org/politics/rush-limbaugh-says-obama-manipulated-hurricane-forecasts-to-delay-gop-convention/

And then there's this. If you want a real laugh, be sure to pay close attention to the last line of what Pat Robinson said:
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/pat-robertsons-cbn-suggests-god-moved-hurric


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Re: Black History
« Reply #1591 on: August 30, 2012, 09:20 AM »


Michelle Obama has graced magazine covers from Time to People to Vogue looking powerful, beautiful, and downright regal, but now a Spanish magazine is picturing her bare breasted, and as a slave.

The cover of Magazine Fuera de Serie, which is widely available in Spain as a newspaper lifestyles supplement, shows the first lady's face superimposed onto an 1800 portrait of a female slave by Marie-Guillemine Benoiste, a French neoclassical painter.

According to the magazine's editor, the picture is meant to honor Michelle Obama who they call the "gran mujer" (great woman) who "conquered the heart" of the man who would be president and "seduced the American people."

Many commentators aren't seeing it that way. "Let's be clear: This image has nothing to do with acknowledging Obama's enslaved foremothers, and everything to do with reinforcing and extending the historical denial of black women's individuality…" writes Althea Legal-Miller for The Clutch. She continues "The portrait robs Obama of her identity, voice, and intellect, and visually shackles her to a politically passive subject, resigned to an assigned role as slave." The Frisky writer Jessica Wakeman calls it "plain old tasteless."

Some art historians describe the original painting as a tribute to emancipation in France, which occurred in 1794 and also as a feminist statement linking the universal bondage of women to the institution of slavery. Benoiste was one of the few established female artists of her era. The reality is, the majority of people today who encounter the image will have little knowledge of its art historical significance. Instead they will simply see the first lady of the United States as a half nude servant. Accompanied by the headline, "Michelle, Granddaughter of a Slave, Lady of America" it's more of a willfully ignorant attention-grab designed to spark controversy (and magazine sales) than a legitimate homage.

This is not the first time a magazine cover featuring Mrs. Obama has garnered accusations of racism. In 2008, the New Yorker published a satirical drawing of her decked out as a radical Black Panther fist bumping with her husband who is wearing a traditional Muslim robe.

While the Obamas entered office in a supposedly "post-racial" America, what they encountered was a country where bigotry is still alive and kicking and often stirred up by their very presence in the White House. At times serving as a surrogate punching bag for her husband, Michelle Obama is likely to be labelled in some quarters as an "angry black woman" instead of the smart, accomplished person who she is.

Mikki Taylor, former editor of Essence and author of Commander in Chic writes, "The looming shadow of racism is always there and it's very sad. Who was more feisty than Barbara Bush? Laura Bush always spoke her mind, but Michelle Obama takes the heat for being an independent-thinking woman. It's so clearly based on race and a backward way of thinking."


Karine Percheron-Daniels, the artist who created the image, isn't shedding any light on its underlying message. She is quoted saying she depicted the first lady in such a manner "for obvious reasons." She adds, "I'm sure [she] would love it, and I hope that someday she can see it." We suspect the first ladies' opinion would be, in her typically dignified fashion, "no comment."

http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/spanish-magazine-courts-controversy-michelle-obama-cover-191700427.html

Be sure to read the comments section - quite enlightening.
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Re: Black History
« Reply #1592 on: August 30, 2012, 06:04 PM »
I have no words to describe my outrage at this type of racist contempt.  Thanks G for bringing this to our attention.

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Re: Black History
« Reply #1593 on: August 31, 2012, 12:27 AM »
Ignorance knows no bounds. Rush Limbaugh - is he still on drugs or somethin'?
Pat Robertson - shouldn't he be on some sort of medication already? I mean, c'mon, I tell people I hear voices once and they want to lock me up - he's been doin' it for years and on national television no less. Makes you wonder.   :tongue
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Re: Black History
« Reply #1594 on: September 04, 2012, 03:01 PM »
The old folks used to say, 'if life gives you nothing but  lemons, make lemonade.' We all know that means to make soemthing positive out of the negative, and we all know its easier said than done. But it can be done.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/02/us/playmaking-girls-juvenile-justice/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1

We need more of these kind of people.


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Re: Black History
« Reply #1595 on: September 08, 2012, 09:05 PM »
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/28/1125295/-GOP-attendee-throws-nuts-at-African-American-CNN-camera-woman-This-is-how-we-feed-animals

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/republican-cnn-attack-animal-peanuts-racist_n_1838249.html

http://hinterlandgazette.com/tag/rnc-delegates-throw-nuts-at-patricia-carroll

http://mije.org/richardprince/cnn-camerawoman-not-surprised-peanut-throwing

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/29/wolf-blitzer-cnn-racist-attack-camerawoman_n_1841316.html

Just so I won't be accused of making things up, which in fact is what a lot of the apologists are doing in the comment sections, here's a link with Patricia Carroll telling her own story...plus a report on how the Porto Rico representative was shouted down as he was at the podium supporting Romney.


Another glaring example of what racism looks like. Not surprising to me at all where this incident took place.