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Re: other side of still
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2012, 05:47 AM »


I must be the weirdo in the bunch. I get it and can relate. Here are my suggestions.

slender hours
squeeze something quietly real

the other side of still
is a rip in a whisper

stroll through black
there is not more black

beyond tender silence
is great commotion

not without its
sirens

cobblestone (I might add an S to this.)

refracted shy lamp light


now you know why curves
of grey smoke rise into the night sky



Did I waste my time with this offering?


I listen for each lonely breath.

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Re: other side of still
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2012, 11:30 AM »
These responses surprise me. Skaadee is a jazz musician and these lyrics reflect a film noir mis-en-scene. Not every poem need be a blunt narrative. Some poems are born oblique and who is to shout me down that they should not¿

I believe it is healthy to tolerate ambiguity.

Cheers
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Re: other side of still
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2012, 09:35 AM »
thank you all again for the responses.

I realize concrete poetry is in vogue but I don't believe there is a correct way to write.
If I wrote a fugue, I would post it on a composition website, even though Bach will never be topped in that endeavor.
At the end of the day, I think the author needs to ask, do I like it. 
I like this poem, to a degree. That's why scrapping as per Bill's suggestion was not worth considering.
Even odd looking babies need love. (I don't mean you Bill, I mean the poem. ) 

that doesn't mean I should bury my head in the sand. the responses here have given me ideas to make it better.
(that includes yours witt, thank you)

and thanks champagne shoes for sharing your deep understanding of poetry.
you're unparalleled in my journey.


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Re: other side of still
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2012, 11:50 AM »
Tell me, Scott,

Do you ever indulge in the rose-gold-blue hue of nostalgia?
I sense that you do.
"A community of poets is like a community of cats." joey

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Re: other side of still
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2012, 02:16 PM »
I believe that I do. I've spent the better half of a decade trying not to act my age
because of lack of definition. You know, the creation is greater than
the creator. Interestingly I've  tried to remove the me from poetry.
If only in hindsight.  There is an altered state here that needs to be described.

For instance I wrote this last night:




Vinyl

The dog walks have become treks straight south
then round and round a center until a decision is made.
Half what fills this place is a skyline hiding the moon,
the rest beg-borrow-and-steal.

Someone near the gas station last week
gave me 5 twenties for a 5 even after I explained
hard-cut reality as soft as a shopper can.

A woman's shadow vacates the bright side of a glass door.
I know words of movement and stations-in-life
will tempt her near the coat rack on the way to the dining room.

Soon, I`ll listen to a music so well played
it will escort me to the other side unless I find
its bid for superfluous cliche.

There has been something not right with the curve of time
since my family became happy and some place else.
I`ll flip on another excess from the seventies
we were so sure would take us all the way.





it is what it is




On a more lucid note, your poetry is rich and filled with life.
Like only a few other internet poets I know of, you seem to feel the texture of the paint
as it flows between phrase, between sentences. Somehow the shape of the words is rounder.
I suppose all poets do this to a degree.


Cheers, I'm procrastinating on a task,
(therefore I have all the time in the world)


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Re: other side of still
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2012, 03:05 PM »
and does the vinyl reference those lovely, obsolete discs?
Scott,
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this exchange is good. It transcends a lot of bygones and futuristic traps.

I look forward
to more of
your words
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Re: other side of still
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2012, 10:09 AM »
yes it is good.
i've never felt compelled to speak when not spoken to,
on the other hand i'm careful not to pry. a far north mindset i'm sure.

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Re: other side of still
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2012, 02:30 PM »
Undoubtedly.
We are stoic and private.

I am hungry, nonetheless, for a few breadcrumbs.
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Re: other side of still
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2012, 08:43 PM »
i decided to explore the rabbit hole about a decade ago and now balance between the Cassandra Syndrome
and indifference. the world becomes an ink-blot-test-within-a-mirror when trying to piece together
situation Earth. all roads do not lead to Rome, they probably lead home. fiction from fact
is merely an exercise. Earth is a weight room.

you were expecting something more prosaic, i'm sure. 


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Re: other side of still
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2012, 12:47 PM »
No, Scott. I never expect anything prosaic from you. Your energy is electric and you never fail to surprise me.
"A community of poets is like a community of cats." joey

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Re: other side of still
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2012, 02:17 PM »
my only question is ..was Scott looking for critique? Or was he simply posting a poem he liked? (I guess thats a two-part question)

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Re: other side of still
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2012, 09:38 AM »
Hi CafeRG

Yes, I was looking for critique and read and contemplated every one and am grateful people took the time. 
I would never post a poem I didn't like, that would be an insult to people's time, although as da Vinci said, a painting is never finished only abandoned. 
I don't feel compelled to defend a poem when I disagree with the critique although I do offer my thanks in the same way gold offers thanks to fire.

More is more

and some time in the future I may even modify the poem when I understand the critique offered.
What is the appropriate response when offered critiques that the author disagrees with?

Does this confidence seem audacious?


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Re: other side of still
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2012, 09:56 AM »
No, Scott. I never expect anything prosaic from you. Your energy is electric and you never fail to surprise me.

Hi

About 2002  I decided to sacrifice sacred cows and use what resources available to open mindedly try to understand the bigger picture. It's a tricky but fascinating thing. I remember I was stunned for about a week when presented with evidence that Jesus probably didn't even exist. (although now I believe he did) I'm fascinated with the concept of conditioning and mind control. I spent allot of time debating and discussing on politics forums and metaphysics forums.

I soon burned out with heavy topics and decided to develop any poetry skills I may have. It feels better and is (usually) not contentious. I'm not a real poet because I can "not" write if I want to but poetry was a way I could exercise my right brain while at my desk job. I've read and corresponded with some very memorable real poets on the internet, definitely including yourself.



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Re: other side of still
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2012, 10:06 AM »
Hi Scottdoo  :kool

I was just curious because of the forum you placed your poem in "Poetry Showcase" Why not the AX?

I dont really care. But I have been away for a while and I am just trying to get a feel of what everyone wants. Myself I think I would like to see the boards go into the direction of workshopping (more), as i think it would serve the poetry community better.

I'm finding workshopping is not only educational but is fun.

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