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White Feather
« on: January 09, 2012, 10:38 AM »
condensation turns into frost
the blurred gray world
cold and dense
a cardinal scratches through empty hulls
searching for a fueling morsel
there's nothing there
I haven't stepped outside
in four months
to fill the feeder
to fill my senses
to fill my larder
I run my fingernail through
the hoar on the pane
touch it to my tongue
     bland
I turn from the window
I'm out of scotch

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Re: White Feather
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 10:04 PM »
A few thoughts from me.  If anything is of value, please use and delete the post if you like.  I never care for it when my piece is copied by others and I end up with other plans for it.  :)


condensation turns to frost
the blurred world
dense and cold
a cardinal scratches through empty hulls
searching for a morsel
nothing there
I haven't stepped outside
in four months
to fill the feeder
to fill my senses
to fill my larder
I run a fingernail through
the hoar on the window
touch its bland to my tongue
then turn from the pane
I'm out of scotch

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Re: White Feather
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2012, 11:05 AM »
Witt---

cooking with gas this trip.  excellent.  a deep portion of irony and logical surprise at the end; how easy to only give us the atmospheric of a frosty morning, but this reader wants more---and the poem delivers.

now, DS's edit.  yes, i prefer the edit---sharper and even more detailed.  the edit also deletes the adjective---gray world.  a bland and predictable modifier, i agree to delete, but i don't agree with another exception:

I run a fingernail through
the hoar on the window
touch its bland to my tongue
then turn from the pane
I'm out of scotch

that word then.  it makes the narrative even smoother, but at the expense of an empty word when every word is in the highest focus.

I vote for your original phrasing, no then word need apply.

the poem has  established an abrupt narrative pattern without punctuation so the final lines do not come as a textual surprise.

irony.  the sweet and the sour, the hot and the cold.  contrast.  Miniver Cheevy made this a classic form:

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Miniver Cheevy, born too late,
    Scratched his head and kept on thinking;
 Miniver coughed, and called it fate,
    And kept on drinking.
-- Edwin Arlington Robinson



why not try, for fun, to locate a second irony for this poem---?

alcohol may be too easy.

i  love hemingway's classic in A Farewell to Arms --- Katherine tells lt. Henry---i hate the rain---sometimes i see myself dead in it.

and of course, she later dies in childbirth with a drenching rain on the hospital windows and the retreating baggage cars of the defeated Italian army.

fixing two i've used recently to conclude your poem:

after the somber observations of cold in the poem---

The lenten season opens slowly, the snow already falling.


or, as Kathleen says, a story within a story---the stoic observations that might conclude with a surprise:

I haven’t spoken for an hour,
my wife asks if I’m seeing someone else.



you see what i mean.




another favorite written while the poet was in jail for political protest of the VN war:

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moonless night —
in the harvested wheat field
i, too, am empty
…Johnny Baranski


here the bleak atmospheric is used as a foundation for the empty feeling experienced by the poet.


and two from sarah jane sloat---our own ibpc winner:

1. It is becoming more difficult to write a letter
from the slow country of summer.
The light makes a mess of the trees.

2. The lawn chair broods in a corner
way off the map.

and the Beat poet Allen Ginsberg:


1.  Taxi ghosts at dusk pass Monoprix in Paris 20 years ago.

2.  Put on my tie in a taxi, short of breath, rushing to meditate.
 
3.  Tompkins Square Lower East Side N.Y.
Four skinheads stand in the streetlight rain chatting under an umbrella.



mojave


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Re: White Feather
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2012, 05:58 AM »
Thanks, steve. I appreciate your taking the time to point out my cliches and smoothing out the ending.

Thanks, mojave. Your insight and direction is helpful.
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Re: White Feather
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2012, 08:17 PM »
Witt,

I see you've gone over to the "dark" side; no capitalization, no punctuation, no meter, no rhyme.  On the other hand, maybe I'm just living in the dark. 

So, let's look at sequential consistancy and verbal economy, since that seems to be the goal of how you present this experience.

1.)  In for a ounce, in for a pound.  Why capitalize the title, if you are not going to capitalize anything else?

2.)  You have distanced one of your images from portions of its description.  Consistancy of sequential logic suggests that you either delete line one, since its idea is repeated in line 13.  Even better, replace line 13's "hoar" with, "frost."  It is the more common usage, unless you combine them and go with, "hoarfrost."

3.)  Start with the cardinal.  However, drop, "fueling."  "scratches through empty hulls / searching" carries its weight.  You could also delete, "there's nothing there," both because the scratch, search, and empty carry that weight, and because it avoids using the same word twice in the same line. 

4.)  Consider that after the cardinal, an external image paralleling your own emptiness, should comes the introspection, the expression of what you lack, as a reflection of the cardinal's fruitless search.  "the" depersonalizes the beginning of a set of three.  It is not just "the" feeder, it is "his", that is, the cardinal's feeder.  "larder," is an anachronism most won't appreciate; pantry works better in the 21st century. 

5.)  Sequentially, introspection gives place to reality.  It is what it is.  Now comes the description found in lines 2 and 3, and what it does.  It "frosts" the pane.  You drag your fingernail through it, describe it.  And the recognition that it is insufficient to the need is well stated in L15, 16, 17. 

6.)  The only question that might arise for some readers is why you have isolated yourself, or what has caused you to remain isolated.  It is not necessary, but it might be worth a line or two.

7.)  Finally, where is the white feather.  Yes, I can imagine that frost on a window pane looks like white feathers, but the title should lead into the poem.  So, unless "White Feather" is the name of a brand of scotch, and so provides a juxtaposition between the frost and the booze, I wondered why, "White Feather."

These are my thoughts, but you are the creator.  When it rolls out of your mind and off your tongue the way you want it to, it is done.  I would suggest that any revision, if there is any revising done, be submitted.  It is as good as anything I've read among the winners the last three months.

Keep writing,
Bill

1.)  condensation turns into frost
2.)  the blurred gray world
3.)  cold and dense
4.)  a cardinal scratches through empty hulls
5.)  searching for a fueling morsel
6.)  there's nothing there
7.)  I haven't stepped outside
8.)  in four months
9.)  to fill the feeder
10.)  to fill my senses
11.)  to fill my larder
12.)  I run my fingernail through
13.)  the hoar on the pane
14.)  touch it to my tongue
15.)       bland
16.)  I turn from the window
17.)  I'm out of scotch


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Re: White Feather
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2012, 05:09 AM »
Super critique, Bill.

I shall study upon it!  You had a lot to say.


Thanks!


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Re: White Feather
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 03:41 PM »
I think you should follow up on this with another, which you could title Wit and use the pen name White Feather. Just a thought on this slow, slow day.

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Re: White Feather
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 03:45 PM »
And, then, complete the trilogy with  White, penned by Witty Feather or Feathery Wit.  Just another thought as the day grows even slower.

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Re: White Feather
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 04:04 PM »



Thanks, steve. I keep intending to work on this everyday, but it seems taking care of Hubby comes first and by the time I get back to it, my thoughts have left me.

Talk about slow . . .
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Re: White Feather
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2012, 09:03 PM »
Witt,

I like the poem. You've received a ton of feedback and I really don't have anything that stands out to change. The ending is smooth.

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Re: White Feather
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 06:17 AM »



Thank you, kay. I still haven't gotten the wherewithal to work on this piece. Maybe it depresses me too much.



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Re: White Feather
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 05:07 AM »




Here's a revision:

a cardinal scratches through empty hulls
searching
nothing's there
I haven't stepped outside
in four months
to fill his feeder
to fill my larder
to fill my senses

condensation blurs a  gray world
I run my fingernail through
the frost on the pane
frozen crystals gather like a white feather
I touch its blandness to my tongue

I turn from the window
ice rattles in my glass
reminding me I'm out of scotch

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Re: White Feather
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2012, 06:33 AM »

Emotive piece, witt. Such a sense of loss of self, drifting, being on the edge of giving in.  *hug*

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Re: White Feather
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2012, 08:24 AM »



Thanks for commenting. No one else has replied since I put in the revision.



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