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Offline JasonFontaine

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« on: August 10, 2009, 03:32 AM »
If color your mind finds - your eyes very well may be blind...
Embrace race!
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Re: Black man
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 05:04 PM »
Jason.. very well done!

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Re: Black man
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 12:27 AM »
That was really good, Jason.

Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Black man
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2009, 03:44 AM »
On the poem:

Is it that terrible to acknowledge our differences, as individuals, and appreciate them?
Regardless if it is skin color, hair color, eye color, nationality, religion or what have you.

Imagine how boring it would be if we were all carbon copies of each other.

"Variety is the spice of life"

On the video footage:

I think the inclusion of the scene in your video where a derogatory term was referenced,
regardless of intention, was in bad taste, and personally, I found it offensive.





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Re: Black man
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2009, 05:23 PM »
Hey John - sorry for the scene. I did not like it either.

But, the scene is from a comedy troop - all the kids are friends and wanted to make a statement.
I decided to use it once I knew the context - and unfortunately - it's a real statement.

Again, didn't mean to offense with it - and I respect your opinion...

Hope the overall message was positive!

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Re: Black man
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2009, 05:26 PM »
As for the poem...it's in reference to a discussion I was having with a friend who said something to the effect,
"are we BLACK leaders? are forever going to be categorized as "black this or black that"?

It points into this direction - that's all.

I do see your point - but I don't think you saw mine....

Thanks for the response anyhow!
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Re: Black man
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2009, 08:21 PM »
JasonFontaine,

The problem with using the same title as a masterwork is that whatever one produces usually will suffer by comparison.  More about that in paragraph three.

As I watched the video, it struck me that its focus is contradictory to the written 'intro,' "If color your mind finds -- your eyes may very well be blind...Embrace race!"  as well as in respect to the message it seeks to bring across.  If the encouragement is to embrace race, then why does the film encourage us to ignore the race/color of the individuals presented, but at the same time only portrays one "color"?  One cannot avoid seeing it.  Why does it only focus on one "color," with the exception of Abraham Lincoln?  Such a focus cannot help but impress on the viewer the race of the individuals portrayed.  It is their racial background, not merely in respect to color, but also in respect to the historical heritage, ancestral culture, and their situation in life which formed and fueled their contributions.  If the encouragement is to embrace race, then why present individuals only from one race, and not include those from other racial groups who made their marks as athletes, protestors, icons, etc. 

I write this, because, as I mentioned earlier, the title itself only served to recall for me Stevie Wonder's far more masterful presentation of the subject in his song, "Black Man," from his magnum opus album, "Songs in the Key of Life."  The lyrics were written by Stevie Wonder and G. Byrd, copyright held by MoTown records through 2000. In that didactic pearl of wisdom, Stevie not only identifies the contribution, but the specific "color"/race and name of the contributor.
 
Black Man by Stevie Wonder and G. Byrd.

First man to die
For the flag we now hold high
Was a black man   (Crispus Attucks)

The ground where we stand
With the flag held in our hand
Was first the red man's.

Guide of a ship
On the first Columbus trip
Was a brown man    (Pedro Alonzo Nino)

The railroads for trains
Came on tracking that was laid
By the yellow man

Refrain
We pledge alligiance
All our lives
to the magic colors
Red, blue, and white
But we all must be given
The liberty that we defend
For with justice not for all men
History will repeat again
It's time we learned
   This world was made for all men.

Heart surgery
Was first done successfully
By a black man     (Dr. Daniel Hale Williams)

Friendly man who died
But helped the Pilgrims to survive
Was a red man     (Squanto)

Farm workers rights
Were lifted to new heights
By a brown man    (Caeser Chavez)

Incandescent light
Was invented to give sight
By the white man   (Thomas Edison)

(Repeat Refrain)

Hear Me Out...

Now I know the birthday of a nation
Is a time when a country celebrates
But as your hand touches your heart
Remember we all played a part in America
To help that banner wave

First clock to be made
In America was created
By a black man    (Benjamin Banneker)

Scout who used no chart
Helped lead Lewis and Clark
Was a red woman      (Sacagawea)

Use of martial arts
In our country got its start
By a yellow man

And the leader with a pen
Signed his name to free all men
Was a white man    (Abraham Lincoln)

Repeat Refrain

The world was made for all men
The world was made for all men
The world was made for all men
The world was made for all men
All people
All babies
All children
All colors
All races
This world's for you
and me
This world
My world
Your world
Everybody's world
This world
Their world
Our world
This world was made for all men.

Acommpanied by music and sung with verve unmatched, and never dared to be covered by another artist, back in the day it encouraged me to embrace color/race not only for the variety it presents on the surface but also for the varied contributions and singular achievements of men and women of all races.

Thanks for sharing, but Stevie did it better.

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Re: Black man
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2009, 02:08 AM »
OMFG!!!!!

I swear to you - I love all kinds of music - and my ignorance has overlooked Stevie Wonder. I know his major hits - but I've never really embraced his work - until just recently. I told my wife a few weeks ago I wanted to buy this album - and really start getting into Stevie....what a coincidence. Please accept apologies - I had no idea of this song or the implications. I promise it's a simple, honest mistake on my part. But, thanks for sharing and pointing this out!

I will indeed definitely get this album in the next few days.

I chose a black man simply because it's the history I know. This is all. I feel strongly about it - and I think the heart is in the right place.

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Re: Black man
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2009, 03:18 AM »
JasonFontaine,

Relax.  I'm not accusing you of anything.  And you certainly don't owe me an apology.  I'd be willing to be there are a lot of "same titles" out there.  Just stating a fact.  Simply put, since the first time I read your title, all I could think about was Stevie's lyrics.  Thought I'd share them, with comment why I believe they are superior. 

But for five bucks, I won't call the copyright cops.

*still chuckling.

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Re: Black man
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2009, 03:35 AM »
Thanks. Open, honest constructive critique - love it. Makes all of us better. Thanks.

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